tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post2667226550712616651..comments2023-12-18T00:23:37.110-05:00Comments on LieStoppers: Something to Be Proud OfMarco2006http://www.blogger.com/profile/01235104902243866449noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-83986051445905478592007-04-11T19:05:00.000-04:002007-04-11T19:05:00.000-04:00Oh sorry, I just have to have a nother laugh at th...Oh sorry, I just have to have a nother laugh at the expense of justice58, she's so incredibly stoooopid! She quotes the facts as being:<BR/>1. Mike Nifong is elected DA<BR/><BR/>2. The duke 3 are charged with Rape, Kidnapping, and Sexual Assault<BR/><BR/>3. The case is headed to trial<BR/><BR/>4. Mike Nifong will get a conviction<BR/><BR/>5. A jury will find them guilty.<BR/><BR/>6. Prison terms for all 3<BR/><BR/>So yes, 1 and 2 were facts at the time, but 3-6 were her misguided opinions and so tragically wrong (actually comically wrong, she's such a blowhard). No 'fact' number 2 is also no longer right since all the charges have been dropped. Soon I would suggest fact number 1 will also be wrong since Nofing is headed for disbarment.<BR/>Well I'm off to google her again and try and find some more of her posts to respond too. She just set herself up so badly this should keep me entertained for daysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-7662421059053711242007-04-11T18:57:00.000-04:002007-04-11T18:57:00.000-04:00Wow justice58, for all your ranting and misguided ...Wow justice58, for all your ranting and misguided opinions it turns out you were wrong.That's right, wrong.<BR/>could it be that your stereotypes led you to the wrong conclusions? Could it be that you are in fact a bigot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-74934662308368977582006-11-10T13:27:00.000-05:002006-11-10T13:27:00.000-05:00personally, I would be afraid to go to trial under...personally, I would be afraid to go to trial under any circumstances. why? because people are stupid. jury members are stupid. they all come in with preconceived ideas and biases, and are often too stubborn and irrational to really analyze the evidence. <br /><br />one of my friends works for a company that did a mock jury trial, with real people, to test out one of their cases. they presented a case that obviously favored them (the defense) and then listened to the jury deliberate. suffice to say, they heard comments like "well, I don't care what the science says, this is how I think it should be." with people like that on juries, you can't even count on them for a fair verdict.alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988650355759369490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-19646850398432979442006-11-10T08:15:00.000-05:002006-11-10T08:15:00.000-05:00I think you assume the defense has no evidence of ...I think you assume the defense has no evidence of their own -- most of the 'evidence' seen to date is the prosecution's. <br /><br />I think we're all going to find out Nifong is dirtier than we could have imagined.<br /><br />Afraid of trial? I don't think so. Charges were brought before the investigation was complete (in fact it is quite apparent now the investigation is still not complete). <br /><br />One question, why do you think Nifong lied to Victoria Peterson at the NCCU forum on 4/11 when he told her that her information was wrong (about the accuser being able to identify her 3 attackers)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-44923068266202473702006-11-10T05:25:00.000-05:002006-11-10T05:25:00.000-05:00the defense is afraid to go to trial. if they had...the defense is afraid to go to trial. if they had such an airtight case why did they go through so much to try to get it dismissed? why not sit tight, collect evidence, send colin and reade and dave off to europe to ski or whatever and then go to court this spring and decimate nifong? but no. they chose to mount a huge pr campaign and hired an expensive new york pr firm for this purpose, paid for a push poll, arranged to be on 60 minutes, helped support a recall campaign, etc all to avoid going to trial. ask yourself why. there is a lot of stuff going to come out on the victim because of her lifestyle but you need to think that there is some stuff coming out on the duke 3 as well and you know that past history shows the durham da office does not hesitate to use lifestyle issues like what may be in their computers. word is that there are racially embarassing emails and some photos that have never been published anywhere coming out in the latest discovery. there may be a reason the defense was so reluctant to take this to trial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-35018725506639434252006-11-09T23:06:00.000-05:002006-11-09T23:06:00.000-05:00Justice...
The substantial evidence we've seen th...Justice...<br /><br />The substantial evidence we've seen thus far came from the prosecution... are you silly enough to believe that the defense doesn't have substantial evidence yet to be revealed? The defense has not yet begun...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-64479897028547540222006-11-09T14:16:00.000-05:002006-11-09T14:16:00.000-05:00I thought it was great when the bouncer at the Pla...I thought it was great when the bouncer at the Platinum Club told reporters that sister number one was telling everybody at the club that she was going to get money from the white boys but that everyone ignored her because they all think she is wacky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-36886076413894305232006-11-09T14:06:00.000-05:002006-11-09T14:06:00.000-05:00Anon 11:24 AM:
You say that the "victim" was exam...Anon 11:24 AM:<br /><br />You say that the "victim" was examined at Duke Hospital and that a grand jury indicted, as if to suggest that this constitutes powerful proof that a rape occurred. So what? The examination at Duke Hospital showed no evidence of rape, just some minor swelling consistent with her sexual escapades with multiple partners and devices during the days prior to the party. Also, the grand jury basically consists of some local dummies who would indict a ham sandwich if the DA asked them to. Bottom line: no evidence. Any questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-89422419818104858182006-11-09T13:47:00.000-05:002006-11-09T13:47:00.000-05:00Anon 11:24 AM, you seem to be conveniently forgett...Anon 11:24 AM, you seem to be conveniently forgetting that the "victim" has actually given the police multiple conflicting versions of events. At various times, she has told the police that she was not raped, that she was raped by 20 guys, 5 guys, 3 guys with the assistance of Kim Pittman, 3 guys without the assistance of Kim Pittman, etc. Also, during one of the many unconstitutional photo line ups, she identified 4 guys as her attackers with 100 percent certainty. However, it turned out that one of the guys she identified was not even in Durham at the time, which is why the Minister of Injustice only indicted 3 guys. I guess even he had qualms about indicting a guy who could prove that he was hundreds of miles away at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-71556523919435274512006-11-09T13:45:00.000-05:002006-11-09T13:45:00.000-05:0011:24..there is no evidence. As for your "word in ...11:24..there is no evidence. As for your "word in durham" about photos restraining the victim you need to do something called THINK. There was no restraining of anybody on the ATM photos but maybe the bank tampered with the photos. We all heard the DNA results were tampered with at Duke. Spare me. Maybe we'll hear about space aliens tampering with evidence.<br /> Your comment "i have news for you" is not news. We know what they have been charged with so it is not news. As for your comments about discovery: You're kidding, right??? Do you have ANY opinions that are your own or do you just parrot what you hear?<br /><br />justice 58: come now. You can argue better than that. Or can you?<br /><br />just when I think humanity may be catching up in fairness and critical thinking I read crap from people who wear blinders. <br />Will they be here when it all falls apart? No way...not a prayer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-68935571089664426102006-11-09T13:34:00.000-05:002006-11-09T13:34:00.000-05:00If there is all this "evidence" of a crime, why di...If there is all this "evidence" of a crime, why didn't you push Nifong to have the trial last April?<br />There are no notes from any police officer since about July.<br />Why the delay?<br />Bring it on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-87245541785083913682006-11-09T13:19:00.000-05:002006-11-09T13:19:00.000-05:00To Justice 58 and Anon 11:24 AM: Read my lips. N...To Justice 58 and Anon 11:24 AM: Read my lips. No evidence. Enuf said. By the way, you never responded to my question regarding Kim Pittman. Why was that? Do you find that situation a bit awkward? Perhaps you could do us all a favor and tell us exactly what sort of justice you have in mind for Kim. Maybe we should invite the New Black Panther Party to come back to Durham to "question" Kim about her testimony and make sure everyone is on the same page, like Patrick Baker did with the Durham police a couple of months ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-17520677251740504432006-11-09T11:24:00.000-05:002006-11-09T11:24:00.000-05:00justice is right. you are all mad your little tri...justice is right. you are all mad your little trick in trying to buy the election and get nifong dismissed did not work. i have one thing to say to all your "no evidence" bull shit. you do not know all the evidence, just the evidence the defense leaked out so stop saying that. if there is no evidence, the duke 3 will walk, if there is some they will go to jail and that is simple. the facts of the case are simple, too. a woman in durham county brought a complaint of rape at a location the accused were documented to be, he belongings were found in her possession and she was examined at Duke hospital for rape and a grand jury indicted. the normal course of things in this situation is the men stand trial, not have the case dismissed because they find it inconvenient and in the opinion of their highly paid defense team and their families they are innocent without hearing the state's case. <br /><br />i have news for all of you on here. they are charged with 3 separate felonies. all a jury would have to do is find them guilty of even one felony and they are going to serve serious jail time. maybe you all need to think about your claims of no evidence and think about all the discovery being handed in lately, including dvds. emails and un published photos before making that assertion. word here in durham is that some explosive stuff is in the new emails and there is a photo of them restraining the victim. that is only a rumor though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-89997302029842179572006-11-09T11:20:00.000-05:002006-11-09T11:20:00.000-05:00Fact is:
1. Mike Nifong is elected DA
2. The duk...Fact is:<br /><br />1. Mike Nifong is elected DA<br /><br />2. The duke 3 are charged with Rape, Kidnapping, and Sexual Assault<br /><br />3. The case is headed to trial<br /><br />4. Mike Nifong will get a conviction<br /><br />5. A jury will find them guilty.<br /><br />6. Prison terms for all 3<br /><br /><br />There you have it. Any questions???SouthernGirl2https://www.blogger.com/profile/01829901840187884140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-78590922755798532232006-11-09T08:31:00.000-05:002006-11-09T08:31:00.000-05:00Justice 58,
The problem Assata had was that she t...Justice 58,<br /><br />The problem Assata had was that she took a very hard-line, in-your-face stand for the "victim" the day the story broke and without the benefit of any evidence to support her position, other than the accusation by sister number one. However, during the past seven months, a mountain of evidence has come to light ALL of which shows that the "victim" is a liar and that the three white boys are innocent. Based on this, Assata finally woke up and suspended operations on her web site. She realizes that this case is a crock, and unlike you, she has the honesty to admit it. As I said in my prior posts, the only people who are supporting the "victim" at this point are racists and people who are too stupid to follow the evidence. By the way, who is the second sister that Assata was seeking justice for? Would that be Kim Pittman? What is your opinion of Kim right now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-9773066590791979152006-11-08T21:36:00.000-05:002006-11-08T21:36:00.000-05:00To Justice58:
“At times one remains faithful to a ...To Justice58:<br />“At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.” Nietzsche<br /><br />26,116 people in Durham voted for Mike Nifong without the slightest ambivalence to the decision they were making.<br />26,116 people in Durham have souls black as the night. <br /><br /><br />This girl was not raped. In case you weren’t paying attention, this girl was not raped. <br />Even though Mike Nifong’s lies and deceit have been vociferously exposed, they do not care as long as they have their target, the white boys head on a plate. It’s very sad to see this type of misplaced anger that only typifies their mind-set, that world owes them something. They would rather see innocent people punished because they are white, perceived to be privileged and they consider them to be racist. If this is the mind-set that the juries are going to have if this case makes it to trial, then God help us all. I have never really felt safe in Durham because of the gang and the senseless acts of violence that I see on the news, but now I really feel unsafe for another reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-34502258035255669792006-11-08T20:28:00.000-05:002006-11-08T20:28:00.000-05:00Just in case you think Durham is the only bastion ...Just in case you think Durham is the only bastion of Race Baiting. The following happened this week in Atlanta (info from Neal Bortz website).<br /><br /><br /><br />RACE BAITING LAST MINUTE SCARE AD IN ATLANTA<br /><br />OK ... so this is nothing new, but you would think that sooner or later Democrats would grow tired of the race-baiting last-minute ads trying to frighten black voters into thinking that Republicans will be coming for them with a noose in the dark of night. Well .. it has happened again .. right here in Atlanta. <br /><br />Georgia Democrat Congressman John Lewis, former Atlanta Mayor and U.N. Ambassador Andy Young and current Atlanta mayor Shirley Franklin have teamed up to produce a campaign ad for John Eaves, a black Democrat running for the position of Fulton County Commission Chairman. (Atlanta lies almost exclusively inside Fulton County). The ad suggests ---- hell, it doesn't just suggest, if flat-out says that if the Fulton County voters let those Republicans get control of the Fulton County Commission it will be like setting the dogs and water hoses on blacks again. In fact, it will be worse! <br /><br />Here ... read the text of the ad for yourself:<br />"This is Congressman John Lewis."<br /><br />"And I'm Mayor Shirley Franklin"<br /><br />"And I'm Andy Young"<br /><br />(John Lewis) "On November 7th we face the most dangerous situation we ever have. If you think fighting off dogs and water hoses in the sixties was bad, imagine if we sit idly by and let the right-wing Republicans take control of the Fulton County Commission."<br /><br />(Shirley Franklin) "The efforts of Martin and Coretta King, Hosea Williams, Maynard Jackson and many others will be lost. That's why we must stand up and we must turn out the vote for the Democrats on Election Day."<br /><br />(Andy Young) "And especially for John Eaves for Fulton County Commission Chairman. Unless you want them to turn back the clock on equal rights and human rights and economic opportunity for all of us, vote for John Eaves as Fulton County Chairman"<br /><br />(Lewis) "Your very life may depend on it."<br /><br />(John Eaves) "This message paid for by the committee to elect John Eaves."<br /><br /> <br /><br />You can listen to the ad right here. Well, they've gone and replaced the audio. So if you missed it when I played it on the air today, you'll just have to go with my transcript above.<br /><br />I'm not surprised that John Lewis made this ad. He's never been one to avoid a little race-baiting in a campaign. He rather loves playing the black victimization card. Andrew Young? No surprise there either. Young has a history of playing the race card in his political efforts. Young is just the type of bigot you would expect to tell black voters that Republicans would "turn back the clock on equal rights and human rights" if they get control of the commission. By the way --- a Republican has been in control of the commission for years now ... and thus far no blacks have been lynched.<br /><br />But Shirley Franklin? Now that's a disappointment. A huge disappointment. I've had dinner with Shirley Franklin a few times, and frankly I was impressed. Thus far she's done an admirable job for the City of Atlanta. Now she allows herself to be used by John Eaves in a cheap, crass attempt to scare black voters into thinking that if he doesn't win this race all of the work of Martin Luther King Jr. will have been lost. Mayor Franklin should be ashamed, and she should offer a public apology to the black voters of Fulton County for her implication that they are dumb and ignorant enough to buy this load of crap.<br /><br />And just why do Democrats like to resort to race-baiting advertisements at the last minute during a campaign. Because it works, that's why. Perhaps that's why you won't hear an apology from the mayor. John Eaves won by a wide margin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-88526612519865300652006-11-08T20:21:00.000-05:002006-11-08T20:21:00.000-05:00Yo, Justice 58:
That's a rich white girl you're qu...Yo, Justice 58:<br />That's a rich white girl you're quoting......OOPS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-57181241081060541442006-11-08T20:05:00.000-05:002006-11-08T20:05:00.000-05:00Yada Yada YadaYada Yada YadaSouthernGirl2https://www.blogger.com/profile/01829901840187884140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-63540058048040153222006-11-08T19:28:00.000-05:002006-11-08T19:28:00.000-05:00The election results just show how racist blacks a...The election results just show how racist blacks actually are. No one ever says that blacks are, or can, be racist, but the reality is that this case has just uncovered and hung for all to see the racism of blacks. We should all see this event for what it is: pure racism on the part of blacks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-75618534541088603122006-11-08T18:21:00.000-05:002006-11-08T18:21:00.000-05:00Justice58,
How's it feel to be USED by Nifong? He...Justice58,<br />How's it feel to be USED by Nifong? He's your new slavemaster, you're just too dumb to know it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-45956476489754944792006-11-08T17:07:00.000-05:002006-11-08T17:07:00.000-05:00This whole situation is so sad. As a woman, I want...This whole situation is so sad. As a woman, I want women to be able to come forward and report a sexual assault and feel that they will be believed, BUT as a mother of two boys I am frightened at how easily this woman can point her finger and turn the lifes of these boys and their families upside down. Shouldn't there be more evidence before we get this far in the system? I have heard people say "let a jury figure it out".... what about the financial costs to the families and the City of Durham, not to mention the damage to peoples reputations and the wasted manhours. <br />And my final thought is the impact a single false accusastion has on all "real" victims, one false accusation can undo so much work that women's groups have done to protect women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-56890517304295212602006-11-08T17:06:00.000-05:002006-11-08T17:06:00.000-05:00Asata probably discontinued Justice 4 Two Sisters ...Asata probably discontinued Justice 4 Two Sisters because the government check has not come in yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-43287650082609642302006-11-08T14:45:00.000-05:002006-11-08T14:45:00.000-05:00To 2:04;
Justice 58 does not care about the truth ...To 2:04;<br />Justice 58 does not care about the truth as long as some rich-ass white boys get nailed for something they didn't do!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-91824695988712570952006-11-08T14:14:00.000-05:002006-11-08T14:14:00.000-05:00justice58- what do you think we lost, exactly? or ...justice58- what do you think we lost, exactly? or more importantly, what did you win? a chance for durham to lose this case in embarrassing fashion on a national stage?<br /><br />any group of idiotic and illiterate voters can re-elect someone. unfortunately for you, winning a conviction requires actual evidence.alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988650355759369490noreply@blogger.com