tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post1066253277682103115..comments2023-12-18T00:23:37.110-05:00Comments on LieStoppers: “Highly Unacceptable Behavior”Marco2006http://www.blogger.com/profile/01235104902243866449noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-57688084972339976482009-01-14T16:17:00.000-05:002009-01-14T16:17:00.000-05:00Far more goes on at Duke than sports. Dig into the...Far more goes on at Duke than sports. Dig into the classes and laboratories. Expose the chamber of secrets, as satanism and sex bigger than more will admitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-25315105716879475652006-12-06T00:09:00.000-05:002006-12-06T00:09:00.000-05:00As a current Duke student and Annual Fund worker, ...As a current Duke student and Annual Fund worker, I urge parents and alumni to consider their positions and their actions on this issue very carefully. I fully understand the desire to hold the administration accountable for their actions, however there are several things to keep in mind. First off, they were in a very tough situation last March as were we all. There is no way that they could have made all of the right decisions and although mistakes were made President Brodhead and his administration have done wonderful things at this university and are highly respected among the students. I do not agree with all of the decisions they made, but I believe that he has the best interests of the university at the heart of all his actions. Secondly, I know that many of you are following this case closely, but there is more than you know. You do not eat sleep and breathe this controversy everyday even though of us who do, do not have all the answers, so please do not blindly subscribe to any point of view. Thirdly, many financial supporters of the university have decided to withdraw their funds until Brodhead is gone. This is their decision and I respect that they would like to make their voices heard. I feel however that this is the incorrect appproach to making your voice heard. Annual Fund dollars are crucial for the operation of the university. Without an endowment comperable to our peer institutions, alumni donations keep Duke alive. By withholding funds from this organization you deprive students of opportunities not send a message to the President. If you want to make a difference, write a letter to the Chronicle, write an e-mail to President Brodhead, write an e-mail to the professors who descriminate against our athletes, get in touch with a student if you really want to help and talk to them. Please, I implore you, do not punish the students who already had to go through hell last spring anymore. This is the time that Duke needs support more than ever. Together we can pull through this and make Duke an even better institution of education and athletic powerhouse. And finally, please do not hate President Brodhead because he made questionable decisions during an unbelievably difficult time for all of us. I am not saying he is without fault nor that he did not make serious mistakes which will takes years to recover from, however, he is a kind generous man who loves Duke and our students here and who I feel will lead our university to great heights, give him a chance to learn from his mistakes as we all must after this incident.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-83936436471630732092006-11-08T19:07:00.000-05:002006-11-08T19:07:00.000-05:00KC,
You have seven sources for what? Who told th...KC,<br /><br />You have seven sources for what? Who told the kids not to tell their parents? You seem to be suggesting it was Brodhead, but I heard it was Coach Pressler. Also, at what point were they told not to contact their parents? Was it in the first day or two after the party, when everyone thought the whole thing was going to blow over, or was it later, after the situation had become more serious? Did Coach Pressler give the kids any reason for why they should not tell their parents? There are many questions here that you have not answered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-38054190212887277492006-10-25T15:24:00.000-04:002006-10-25T15:24:00.000-04:00Me, my wife and one of our daughters hold degrees ...Me, my wife and one of our daughters hold degrees from Duke. We have been regular, not large, contributors to the annual fund, general fund and the Iron Dukes. That will all stop until Broadhead and his ilk depart. I have advised my 17 year old grandson (honors senior in math and science), who has heard nothing but "Duke" his whole life, not to apply to Duke. The problems at our school cannot be fixed in time for him not to be affected. What a shame!! What an embarassment!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-83232684055290665652006-10-24T11:51:00.000-04:002006-10-24T11:51:00.000-04:00I hold two degrees from Duke and just got my annua...I hold two degrees from Duke and just got my annual fund request in the mail. Perhaps, that is the way to make our point that the administration is not acting on our (current and former students, donors, etc) behalf and must be held accountable.<br /><br />My envelope will be returned empty this year for the first time in 13 years with a note explaining why. I encourage all of you to do the same.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509677375483509723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-35046090525116227532006-10-22T23:05:00.000-04:002006-10-22T23:05:00.000-04:00I am an alum that has very fond memories of my tim...I am an alum that has very fond memories of my time at Duke. It has been difficult to see our University in the news for this incident, but by far the most disturbing, and in my view most damaging, aspect of this ordeal has been how the administration and numerous faculty members (the '88) have handled this. I truly believe that the long term damage to Duke will not be from the incident itself but from the administration's own doing. <br /><br />As a parent, I can no longer imagine sending my children to Duke. How can I send my children to a school where the administration rushes to judgement, counsels students not speak to their parents and do nothing about the Durham Police Department policy to target Duke Students. <br /><br />I just received the Annual Fund mailing and like many of you will not be making a contribution. While I am not a "deep pocket" alumni that contributes vast sums, I have consistently given each year but will no longer be doing so as long as this administration is in place or makes some very drastic changes to their positions. I urge all alumni to do the same as this will be the loudest way to voice our displeasure with this administration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-60489331491785005442006-10-22T10:45:00.000-04:002006-10-22T10:45:00.000-04:00For a school whose mantra has been "allowing the l...For a school whose mantra has been "allowing the legal process to follow its course", it is curious to read an article printed in Saturday's Charlotte Observer (l0/21/06) that Duke University has offered the City of Durham $2 million to cover Durham's shortfall for its performing arts center in exchange for timely consideration of Duke's proposed plan for Central Campus. May be a little bit of an incentive for some to dry up their pocketbooks. Seems Duke can get into the legal process when it suits their purposes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-86665063696183591132006-10-22T07:52:00.000-04:002006-10-22T07:52:00.000-04:00I am a lacrosse parent and I did not find out abou...I am a lacrosse parent and I did not find out about the party and its consequences for 10 days-why? Because my son was told not to tell us. And he didn't. I found out about it from another parent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-69933282584793095992006-10-20T20:26:00.000-04:002006-10-20T20:26:00.000-04:00A couple of people here have wondered about the so...A couple of people here have wondered about the source for my comment that the lacrosse players were instructed not to tell their parents about the investigation.<br /><br />I, too, believed the claim was a remarkable one.<br /><br />I had seven sources for the claim, consisting of current and former lacrosse players, plus parents of (different)current and former lacrosse players. The revelation was offered at different times, in separate conversations.kcjohnson9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-43832920609931220652006-10-20T18:13:00.000-04:002006-10-20T18:13:00.000-04:00Don't worry about hurting Duke financially. The D...Don't worry about hurting Duke financially. The Duke Endowment, chaired by a Duke alum, will always be at the ready to underwrite any Duke shortfall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-65042697354194205972006-10-20T12:45:00.000-04:002006-10-20T12:45:00.000-04:00Twaddlefree,
Amen brother (or sister though I sus...Twaddlefree,<br /><br />Amen brother (or sister though I suspect brother) to all your comments, especially 11:18 PM.<br /><br />I agree wholeheartedly and I am happy that people are finally realizing that the social science departments of all schools and not just prestigious ones like Duke are overrun by extreme leftist/marixsts who hate everything that their students and the student's parents stand for. They are a cancer in the US university system that need a to excised. <br /><br />Also, to echo Twaddlefree, "white boy" is a racist epithet that is expected to not sting since it is directed a whites, who apparently are guilty of pretty much everything under the sun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-22683976163586717842006-10-20T11:48:00.000-04:002006-10-20T11:48:00.000-04:00No current students will be hurt from the withhold...No current students will be hurt from the withholding of donations. Duke received a "donation" from the Duke endowment this year. It will happen again.<br />Maybe Brodhead can hit up Mayor Bell and City Manager Baker for some cash??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-7227491884770498362006-10-20T00:38:00.000-04:002006-10-20T00:38:00.000-04:00My interest in this case is as a mother of teenage...My interest in this case is as a mother of teenagers. When I first heard the allegations I thought that it was too bad that such behavior could tarnish a great university. As I read more I realized that this was not the case. <br />I am registered to attend a Duke info session with my child next week. I am not that enthusiastic about attending due to learning of the faculty's lack of support of the lax players. This is sad because we have strong Duke ties. <br />I just hope that this does not hinder Duke in the long run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-41435682635881785672006-10-20T00:25:00.000-04:002006-10-20T00:25:00.000-04:00To previous posters who "don't want to hurt the st...To previous posters who "don't want to hurt the students" by withholding donations:<br /><br />Trust me. For Brodhead it's all about the money. If he brings in the dough, he grows. If the money stops, he goes. Simple.<br /><br />I'm a current Duke parent and will not ever consider a dime of support so long as Brodhead has a job at Duke.<br /><br />As for 'the 88', what an outrage to think they are my child's professors. How they hate her and all they think she stands for!<br /><br />Guess what color we are. Guess what sports we like. Guess where we live.Greg Toombshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093911019916154110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-85253577830217061522006-10-19T23:48:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:48:00.000-04:00Like what other ways? If what you have witnessed i...Like what other ways? If what you have witnessed in the last seven months not a complete loss of moral foundation, reason, and justice, then you are not seeing at all. <br /><br />This is not a vendetta against other students. It is a means of refusing to support leftist ideology, injustice, pathetic management. It is my choice to support "right" instead of "wrong." <br /><br />There is no logical comparison to the what the NCUU student said and my choice to withhold personal funds from an institution that behaves or believes in a manner inconsistent with my beliefs. Duke has no right to my money. I do not owe Duke my money. Individual Justice based on fact and truth based on reality are indeed a right, and a responsibility, of all.<br /><br />TwaddlefreeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-91371068905557980292006-10-19T23:42:00.001-04:002006-10-19T23:42:00.001-04:00When this case is dismissed we need to demand an i...When this case is dismissed we need to demand an investigation regarding the charges of retribution by Duke Professors on individual Lacrosse members. The reports that professors graded down Lacrosse players and made negative comments to them are very troubling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-2924363594741753152006-10-19T23:42:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:42:00.000-04:00there are "group of 88" professors at every school...there are "group of 88" professors at every school. From what I understand, many of them are in the African American and Women's studies Depts--not the mainstream of the Duke academic experience. I AM concerned about what they teach in class--but I think those types of teachers are everywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-87076332412199083022006-10-19T23:41:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:41:00.000-04:00This is a terrific article, and expresses the pain...This is a terrific article, and expresses the pain that I, as a Duke alum, have felt. When these allegations first surfaced, the certainty expressed in the DA's statements made me believe that something happened. I was mad at those guilty for the shame that they had inflicted upon my university.<br /><br />I'm still mad at a guilty party for pain caused to my university, but the guilty party is a stripper named Precious. (Tangent -- because of the weight of the evidence, I do not support withholding her name!)<br /><br />I'm embarrassed and angry that President Broadhead has not made public statements cautioning against the rush to judgment. I'm embarrassed and angry that Duke professors publish the poorly-written loathing that was published by Houston Baker and Karla Holloway. I'm embarrassed and angry that the faculty is not now speaking out in support of these three students.<br /><br />Yesterday I received a solitication for the Duke Annual Fund. It pains me that I cannot contribute this year, because Duke is no longer the instititution I graduated from in 1983.<br /><br />Kevin Rew T'83Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16460817889331116991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-63632798629137191332006-10-19T23:38:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:38:00.000-04:00I don't get it twaddlefree. Because Duke was will...I don't get it twaddlefree. Because Duke was willing to hurt the lacrosse players (and I don't know that it was for money) you think it's okay to hurt the rest of the student body that's already there? The other students at Duke don't have an option of attending another school at this point (at least the vast majority don't, and probably don't want to.) Just as I would denounce those at NCCU who said it was okay if the lax players were jailed even if they were innocent because of past wrongs against blacks, I don't see how hurting the rest of the Duke student body is justified. Tuition covers something like 40% of the cost of the education--annual fund and other contributions cover the rest. There are ways to deal with this without hurting other innocent young people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-76104155677621330682006-10-19T23:37:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:37:00.000-04:00Which is a large part of the reason the money is c...Which is a large part of the reason the money is cut off. The living members of six generations in my family have stopped over a million in contributions this year. Want to talk about big contributors with the administration's ear? We have sent letters. We have sent NO checks. No response. Not one single word. <br /><br />Guess they'll eat the Lacrosse field's dirt, huh?<br /><br />TwaddlefreeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-27421531930267329532006-10-19T23:34:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:34:00.000-04:00Instead of worrying about the effect of cutting of...Instead of worrying about the effect of cutting off money I suggest you start worrying about what is being "professed" in classes! The Duke 88 have shown themselves to be bigots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-26634460911767923332006-10-19T23:29:00.001-04:002006-10-19T23:29:00.001-04:00Yes, but it sure won't hurt as much as what I see ...Yes, but it sure won't hurt as much as what I see happening at Duke. The 88 have been a pure revelation as to what has been eating away at Duke for years. Parents have gotten a true revelation, and enrollment is likely to suffer from this, alone. Duke was willing to "hurt" 47 students for that money, so perhaps a bit of sacrifice to hurry along the process of "healing" and "refurbishing" is worth it? <br /><br />There are many other worthy schools to attend where the money will speak just as well, if not better. <br /><br />TwaddlefreeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-57207658398535807362006-10-19T23:29:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:29:00.000-04:00To add to my post, I actually think it's better to...To add to my post, I actually think it's better to find some big contributors, who have the administration's ear, and get them on our side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-39467199635982992672006-10-19T23:26:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:26:00.000-04:00twaddlefree--I don't doubt you are right that mone...twaddlefree--I don't doubt you are right that money talks. I just don't think it's right to hurt other students. Which is what holding back contributions does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31806061.post-7037580103263709832006-10-19T23:22:00.000-04:002006-10-19T23:22:00.000-04:0011:17 Anonymous said: "It affects financial aid pa...11:17 Anonymous said: "It affects financial aid packages, merit scholarships, research, books, club sports, and extracurriculars. I personally think there must be a better way to get the message across."<br /><br />So, if donated money has that much influence, just what "better way" could there possibly be? Money is exactly the point, starting with Nifong, the reverse racism, the leftist dribble and backlash. This is what it is always about and it should be withheld.<br /><br />TwaddlefreeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com