Friday, February 22, 2008

"Best For Duke"



I’ll admit to having been fascinated by the Scott Peterson trial…this seemingly “normal” young man with his pregnant lovely wife. How did those last horrific moments come about? What did he say? What did she? What was in his mind as he watched her die? I would wonder how he rationalized snuffing her life and the life of his child? If one could ever get the truth from him, what would he say? What was he thinking? How does someone like this form a personal defense… even to his own self?

Nowadays I think this same way about Robert Steel and Dick Brodhead. What’s the emotional and moral make-up of folks like this? I’ll confess I’ve never met either of them. I bet they are charming at cocktail parties and impressive in their insular little world, okay…fine. But everything I ever needed to know about either of them, I learned , if true and accurate, in the written summary of the third lawsuit.

Let’s start with Steel. Jason Trumpbour relays a conversation with Steel that just might be the most stunning moral indictment of the current Duke leadership to date. Now, stay with me here. Trumpbour tells us Steel felt it would be best FOR DUKE if Collin, Reade, and Dave…WENT TO TRIAL. Best for Duke. Say that again: “BEST FOR DUKE.” If convicted, he shrugged, “it would all be sorted out on appeal.”

Who thinks like that?

What kind of man thinks like that?

I can’t even type that without stopping to take a deep, outraged breath. Imagine you are the Finnertys, or the Evans. Or the Seligmanns. Your child, your boy, already scourged, and branded, and sullied by an outrageous LIE, would best serve the University’s interest by going TO TRIAL, perhaps being convicted of a felony and imprisoned in some hellhole. This is the measured, moral opinion of the chairman of the Board of Trustees at his school. It would be BEST for Duke for your INNOCENT child, your ravaged family to endure a TRIAL. And let’s remember the backdrop of this time: the Black Panthers, well represented , no doubt, in our prison system, shouting at Reade “You’re a dead man walking!!!” Sure, Chairman Steel, let it all be sorted out on appeal.

BEST FOR DUKE. He can pull these three young lives out of the equation, discard them, and focus on what’s BEST FOR DUKE.

Wow! That Chairman Steel!…he gives new definition to being a “company man.” And Brodhead, the subservient, self-serving lackey. Duke parents and alumni, you can’t say from here on, you don’t know the quality and moral compass of your leadership!

So what does that say about how Steel ( and his willing sidekick Brodhead) perceive the worth, the humanity, the reality of the lives of Collin, Reade, and Dave? Are they expendable for the PR purposes of Duke? Is it much more INSTITUTIONALLY important in the mind of Chairman Steel to prop up a life-destroying LIE so that Duke appears even-handed and sensitive to Durham’s homegrown strippers and lap-dancers? In lock-step with Durham’s cracker-jack, dump-burning governing entities? Supportive of the “castrate” sign- carrying, racist- diatribes of its activist professors? Why Chairman Steel should have just run a spot on local TV and made his message plain:

“ Hi, I’m Bob Steel, Chairman of the BOT of Duke University and I approve this message:

In the best interests of Duke University, to show our inclusiveness and reverence of even drug-addled, mentally ill prostitutes; our fear of our activist faculty; our guilt-fueled submissiveness to the local political intelligentsia; and our heavy duty P.C. credentials …. we will aid and assist D.A. Nifong in railroading three innocent students of ours and besmirching for life the reputations of their teammates. We and our employees will accomplish this by ignoring and/or suppressing or even ALTERING when we must any exculpatory evidence to the contrary. Like the local newspapers, we will also try to level the playing field, by ravaging the “histories” of these young men to try to bring them down to a level where the Lap-dancer /deranged former felon /and prostitute will appear their moral “equal.” To that end, we will empower commissions to uncover anything and everything negative that we might hand the media to envelop these boys in that stain. We will opine that “whatever they did was bad enough.” We will cancel their season and start a “Mea Culpa” progression around town, mournfully apologetic for having these young privileged men in our midst. We will turn our eyes away from any and all violations of OUR OWN conduct codes as long as the objects of these violations are these young men of the wrong race and income group. We will refuse to meet with their terrified parents or read the defense files that might force us to confront their ABSOLUTE INNOCENCE. We will look on mute while our faculty radicals ravage them in print from ad to op-ed over and over again. Proclaim them “farm animals” and let our silence speak approval.


We will do all this in the best interests of Duke University. To send to the world and our student body, through our actions, a moral imprint of what the leadership of Duke University considers the new expediency, the new righteousness. Here is our blueprint for what’s really important for those who aspire to assume the helm of any business. It’s not people, it’s not the lives of three young men or the reputation of forty-plus others. It’s PR and PC. Public relations and Political Correctness. It’s IMAGE. It’s that thin layer of false veneer we’ll protect NOT with OUR LIVES OR LIVELIHOODS, oh no! But those of OTHERS!

It’s protecting our bottom line and our top guys at the price of those we consider expendable. The Coach, the kids. In the business world we can kick the small investor and the retiree to the curb in the holy name of our corporate interest; at Duke, it’s three white students and their white coach. That’s our lesson for the leaders of tomorrow: it’s BETTER FOR US if these three nothing, nobody, non –protected species kids go to trial… so-o-o-o, let’s help it happen. If convicted….Gee Whiz, no Biggie…it will be settled out “on appeal.”

How does that sound to you, Alumni and parents? Do you like what you hear from the top? Am I wrong? Okay, you give me another way to interpret those words between Trumpbour and Steel. Look at your child before you do. Think of HIM as Chairman Steel and his Lapdog Brodhead’s sacrificial lamb. “If convicted, it can be sorted out on appeal.”

“YOU’RE A DEAD MAN WALKING” they shouted at Reade.

I’ve really tried to think of an alternative take on Chairman Steel’s words. Not to excuse or defend him but just because they astound me. I don’t know people who think like this. Maybe I don’t move in the proper exalted circles.

Thank God.

How can the best interests of Duke trump three real young lives? How can the best interests of Duke require the suspension of all logic and common sense, the suppression of evidence, the submission to the mob? How can the best interests of Duke under the current leadership be only about artificial IMAGE…not about its students, not about the rule of law, and dear God, especially….” not about the truth?”

No parent or alumni can say “move on” until they can confront the awful reality of those unanswered questions. Until they absorb the consequences of the cold fact THAT THIS IS THE MINDSET of those who still remain in power at Duke.

I'm reminded of the last powerful scene in the first Godfather movie: the bereaved newly widowed sister, waving the newspaper describing the Mob hits , pointing at Michael Corleone, besseching her sister-in'law to face it all..."THAT'S your husband! THAT'S your husband!"

That's your Chairman of the BOT.

That's your President of the once esteemed Duke University.

"Sweetheart, you can't leave" ….until all you "Move-On Minions" confront the enormity of what was done to these kids.
Joan Foster

105 comments:

Anonymous said...

Whether he is guilty or not, Scott Peterson was railroaded by the news media, and convicted on a shoe string of evidence. He was given the death penalty by a moronic jury because he "showed no emotion."

But back to the subject, what goes on in the minds of men like Robert Steele and Dick Brodhead? Very little goes on. They just conform to their social environment. They wouldn't make vile comments like that if the people around them didn't approve of them.

Anonymous said...

When all of the lawsuits are settled, do you think Newsweek will post Brodhead's face on the cover with the title "The Man Who Brought Down Duke"?

Anonymous said...

The devastation that Brodhead and Steele have brought down on Duke University is incalculable. Through their cowardly and heinous acts, they have undone what took decades to create. I weep for my formerly esteemed school.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what has changed steel's mind to do what is best and right for Duke? He knows what it is, but alas, he wont do it.

First, fire brodhead
Second, resign from the BOT and Duke University.

It is basically true what 12:10 anonymous said about their social environment...they are all cowards when it comes to doing what is right.

Anonymous said...

What is the big shock here? The families have every right to sue the city for negligence of an entire political system that failed miserably! This is by far NOT the biggest case to be media worthy, but one that has brought to the light of day a sample of what people in power do every single day and nobody even knows or cares!

Well, I am here to tell the WORLD and every entity watching, that As God is my witness I will not go to my grave without speaking out about the same system that has not only covered over my beloved brother's murder, but have mocked us, threatened us, and continue to deny us the right to know not just how my brother died, but everything that was done and NOT done!

I have contacted EVERY person their is imaginable, excluding the President, and still have been denied not just documents, but the right of a family to know how their loved one met their death, and to know what was done, and not done to his body!

We have been lied to and threatened by the Durham Sheriff's Department, have been shuffled through 3 years and 3 District Attorneys, countless complaints filed to numerous governmental agencies, even our own Congressman Dennis Kucinich, and STILL NOTHING!

We have sent our documents that we have been able to glean from the system to Mr Ekstrand, but due to his obligation to the LAX team is unable to represent us but would if he could! I have sent him, the FBI, and several others copies of the BLUE blood coming from an entrance wound, none from 2 exits wounds, a inconclusive and actually negative GSR screen, proof of fraud and collaborative deception, and have been to hell and back in this maddening chase to expose this city and system for allowing crimes against humanity to go unannounced, while innocent people suffer from the hands of the very powers who took oaths before God and man to protect and serve!

So, here my family and I are coming forward to beg the media to help us to solve my brother's death, and expose a system of debauchery and evils that not only baffle the mind, but leaves you breathless and speechless! I have tried and done all that I can alone, and now have 2 months before the state can be held liable for not just one mans death, but expose a system that feeds off the helpless, then leaves them for dead!

So, in closing I will say the purpose of this letter now on this thread is to also gain attention to the enumerable failures within the system, to right a countless injustice done to a plethora of lives that have been left completely devastated, and to make our government be held responsible and accountable for FAILING us the citizens, and the dead who have no voice but scream beyond their graves! The truth is worse than a nightmare because it is REAL and more HORRIFIC than you could ever have imagined!

Never could I have guessed such wickedness by not just individuals, but extremely organized and calculated, and failed by the very country and leaders we so blindly put our hopes and faith into! My heart bleeds for the truth, and mourns those who have been so wickedly tortured! My brother and countless others did NOT die in vain, and I will be damned if I will let fear keep me from Justice For Jack, but JUSTICE For ALL!

Rhonda Fleming
Cleveland, Ohio
Sister of Allen Jackson Croft Jr, Murdered May 11, 2005

For legal reference please refer to Mr Ekstrand for personal contact
Robert C. Ekstrand
Firm: Ekstrand & Ekstrand

Address: 811 Ninth Street, Suite 260
Durham, NC 27705


Phone: (919) 416-4590

Fax: (919) 416-4591

Anonymous said...

What is the big shock here? The families have every right to sue the city for negligence of an entire political system that failed miserably! This is by far NOT the biggest case to be media worthy, but one that has brought to the light of day a sample of what people in power do every single day and nobody even knows or cares!

Well, I am here to tell the WORLD and every entity watching, that As God is my witness I will not go to my grave without speaking out about the same system that has not only covered over my beloved brother's murder, but have mocked us, threatened us, and continue to deny us the right to know not just how my brother died, but everything that was done and NOT done!

I have contacted EVERY person their is imaginable, excluding the President, and still have been denied not just documents, but the right of a family to know how their loved one met their death, and to know what was done, and not done to his body!

We have been lied to and threatened by the Durham Sheriff's Department, have been shuffled through 3 years and 3 District Attorneys, countless complaints filed to numerous governmental agencies, even our own Congressman Dennis Kucinich, and STILL NOTHING!

We have sent our documents that we have been able to glean from the system to Mr Ekstrand, but due to his obligation to the LAX team is unable to represent us but would if he could! I have sent him, the FBI, and several others copies of the BLUE blood coming from an entrance wound, none from 2 exits wounds, a inconclusive and actually negative GSR screen, proof of fraud and collaborative deception, and have been to hell and back in this maddening chase to expose this city and system for allowing crimes against humanity to go unannounced, while innocent people suffer from the hands of the very powers who took oaths before God and man to protect and serve!

So, here my family and I are coming forward to beg the media to help us to solve my brother's death, and expose a system of debauchery and evils that not only baffle the mind, but leaves you breathless and speechless! I have tried and done all that I can alone, and now have 2 months before the state can be held liable for not just one mans death, but expose a system that feeds off the helpless, then leaves them for dead!

So, in closing I will say the purpose of this letter now on this thread is to also gain attention to the enumerable failures within the system, to right a countless injustice done to a plethora of lives that have been left completely devastated, and to make our government be held responsible and accountable for FAILING us the citizens, and the dead who have no voice but scream beyond their graves! The truth is worse than a nightmare because it is REAL and more HORRIFIC than you could ever have imagined!

Never could I have guessed such wickedness by not just individuals, but extremely organized and calculated, and failed by the very country and leaders we so blindly put our hopes and faith into! My heart bleeds for the truth, and mourns those who have been so wickedly tortured! My brother and countless others did NOT die in vain, and I will be damned if I will let fear keep me from Justice For Jack, but JUSTICE For ALL!

Rhonda Fleming
Cleveland, Ohio
Sister of Allen Jackson Croft Jr, Murdered May 11, 2005

For legal reference please refer to Mr Ekstrand for personal contact
Robert C. Ekstrand
Firm: Ekstrand & Ekstrand

Address: 811 Ninth Street, Suite 260
Durham, NC 27705


Phone: (919) 416-4590

Fax: (919) 416-4591

Anonymous said...

Joan: That was the most powerful article I have read on this subject. Superbly written. I hope that KC and JinC direct their readers to Liestoppers. This should be read by everyone concerned.

Anonymous said...

Joan -
Excellent piece. I would just note that Steel and Brodhead must both be deconstructionists for whom a text can mean whatever meaning is given to it. Both Steel and Brodhead deconstructed the events at 610 N. Buchanan. They provided a (meta-)narrative based on the reality they wanted, and not on the reality that was. After I read the civil suit last night, I thought the best line was the one cited by KC: the truth is, they were indifferent to the truth.

Jack in Silver Spring

Anonymous said...

I should think that pigs the world over will be insulted with the association to Bob and Dick!

Anonymous said...

I'd think twice before eating that bacon.

Anonymous said...

When will the likes of Nancy Grace, Wendy Murphy, Georgia Goslee and Alan Colmes have their collective ass's hauled to Federal Court. They did just as much if not more than the gang of 88 to inflame masses.

duke09parent said...

Joan,
Someone posted your essay in the comments section on the Duke Chronicle's article about the suit. I didn't see your name associated with it, but I should have guessed it was you.

Terrific essay, once again.

Jim in San Diego said...

It is a puzzle that Duke parents have not protested in the street over the continued presence of Dick Brodhead as head of the University, and Bob Steel as chairman of the BOT.

Question to Duke parents, some of whom are reading this:

Do you love your children?

Then, what are you waiting for?

Any Duke parent who has read the Cooper complaint, and is still ready to "move on", please post here what it is you are thinking about.

Jim Peterson

Anonymous said...

Great stuff Joan, I couldn't agree more.

Anonymous said...

Imagine instead, your child or loved one MURDERED, and not only does it take Law Enforcement over a YEAR to send ONE single report, they LIE to you from the beginning, and not only REFUSE to do any investigating, but fail to adhere to ANY role of conduct and protocol, then threaten you and LAUGH at you?!



Yes, I have the utmost sympathy for the team, but let us not forget just how many OTHER cases have been corrupted by the exact same system! WHAT has been done to answer and solve the murders of my brother, Janet Araboa, and Michelle Young?! What voices have they now they are dead?!



Where is the outrage, and public and media attention for our families?! Nifong is by far the only knave on the long list of miscreant marauders who care nothing about rights of citizens, and care only for what is in "their" best interest! Wake up people and ask why the Department of Justice has not intervened, and why do our nations leaders just watch and do nothing about an abjectly corrupt and politically ran city?!



I never would have imagined what I now know, and am sick that nobody has taken our pleas, and heard our cries! Our loved ones not just dead, but murdered, and we will never see them hear them, or feel their touch ever again! Unfair?! Unjust?! Impossible?! The cesspool of corruption flows deep into a murky quagmire of wickedness that should expose our own government for allowing it to continue!



True and REAL crimes against humanity ranging from organized crime and drugs, to kidnapping, slavery, prostitution, and murders for global sale of body parts! Google human trafficking in organs, and learn exactly what is going on behind closed doors "the powers that be" never want to see opened! The reality is not only horrific and unimaginable, it IS happening every single day across the world, and Durham is just one of the many links in this chain of the grisly, dark underworld!



I have fought for nearly 3 years to restore my beloved best friend's respect, and JUSTICE he, and all of the others desperately deserve, and will never quit until something is done and things are changed! NOBODY deserves what mine and countless other families have endured, and for us I am begging the people and media to make a difference and care about all of the other serious matters that have fallen to the wayside for needless years!



Rhonda Fleming

Cleveland Ohio

Sister of Allen Jackson Croft Jr, murdered May 11, 2005 in Durham NC

STILL praying for "JUSTICE!"

don t. said...

As usual, brilliant, Joan. It would be great if we could get a copy of this to every BOT member and every parent of a Duke student. Brodhead, steel and the rest of the pinheads really have to go.

trinity60

Anonymous said...

The only thing Duke and the BOT responde to is $$$$. That is why I have relinquished my Duke alumni status and will not give anything elst to Duke, including the Chapel, see the sermon by the Dean of the Chapel reguarding this episode, until Brodhead, BOT and the group of 88 have been relieved of their responsibilities of anything to do with Duke. There has to be consequences to thier reprehensible actions.

Anonymous said...

Oh dear god, Rhonda's back.

Hide the children. Hide the sharp kitchen utensils.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if a group of alumni could force those changes, by refusing to contribute until Duke cleans up its mess.

Jim in San Diego said...

So far, about 48 (49? 50?) of its own students and faculty have filed lawsuits complaining of Duke's craven misbehavior towards its own students and Coach Pressler.

For most of the next five years, Duke will be continuouly subjected to depositions of its current administration and board of trustees, humiliating evidence from third party witnesses and, of course, potentialy large money judgements in Court for its betrayal of its responsibilities to its own students.

In the background, a movie is being produced about the moral failings of its current administration, faculty and board.

So far, about 48 (49? 50?) of Duke's own students and former faculty have filed lawsuits describing Duke's betrayal of its own students, and justice.

Would it not be "best for Duke" if those responsible for doing so much harm to the "brand" were to resign? Or, be required to resign?

Jim Peterson

A Voice of Sanity said...

I’ll admit to having been fascinated by the Scott Peterson trial…this seemingly “normal” young man with his pregnant lovely wife. How did those last horrific moments come about? What did he say? What did she? What was in his mind as he watched her die? I would wonder how he rationalized snuffing her life and the life of his child? If one could ever get the truth from him, what would he say? What was he thinking? How does someone like this form a personal defense… even to his own self?

Your blog is called LieStoppers but you repeat one of the most ridiculous lies ever told? Scott Peterson was nowhere near his wife when she died - sometime in March or April when he was in San Diego.

Look at the facts:
• A visibly pregnant Laci Peterson vanishes from her home. No signs of a crime can be found - anywhere - ever - by any police agency.
• Her shoes are found abandoned on the side of the street, 170 feet from her house.
• Seven days after she vanishes, her watch is pawned in Modesto.
• Another woman is found in possession of Laci's Social Security card.
• Some time after that Laci's earrings are sold at an auction sale in Oakland.
• The California Highway Patrol receives a tip that a pregnant woman is being held captive in Tracy, close to Modesto, and is being abused. No investigation of this is done.
• Her body turns up four months later, found on the shore of San Francisco Bay, a place where many other bodies have been dumped and not far from Oakland.
• Her uterus has been cut open by someone unskilled in medical procedures.
• The fetus and the placenta are both missing.
• Some distance away, the body of her child is also found.
• He shows no signs of prematurity, he is full term and he is not curled up in the fetal position. There are no signs he was ever in the sea.
• The fetal cord has been crudely cut.
• A piece of twine has been double knotted around his neck, not to harm him but to keep his body wrapped in plastic bags to protect it. One of the bags is found nearby.
• Although Laci was not consuming anything with caffeine in it, she was found with caffeine in her system. Conner had none, showing that she consumed it after he was removed from her body.
• Laci was found wearing underwear with a wear pattern which shows she had worn it for the whole period of her abduction (which was 111 days).
• Her clothes were still on her body, something which could not happen unless they were retied after the baby was removed. It also shows she was in the water for a day or two at most.
• Her uterus is two to three weeks post partum, showing that she lived at least that long after the baby was removed from her body. The baby was found to be too large to fit into her womb.
• Although the body of the mother was simply discarded in the sea, either from the Albany Bulb or more likely from Point Isabel (it has been suggested in the Hoffman channel), the body of the baby is carefully laid on the shore at Point Isabel so it can be found and buried. This is clearly the work of someone who cared for the baby.

What part of this does NOT look like a failed fetus napping, where both mother and child have died?

Anonymous said...

Though I'm dyslexic, it doesn't distort my view that President Brod Dickhead is not GOOD FOR DUKE.

By the way Joan Foster, great job as usual!

As for the Scott Peterson disciples, wow - where did y'all come from?

Anonymous said...

The Duke rape hoax just may be a microcosm of what could be set to unfold next January:

ObamaNation! Coming soon to your 'hood!

Anonymous said...

What a powerful piece...

thanks for writing...

A Voice of Sanity said...

"Anonymous" said... As for the Scott Peterson disciples, wow - where did y'all come from?

We come from the 2% (or less) of the population which can think for themselves. And we are not "disciples", just people who are more immune to bullshit than the rest of you. This Duke case was dubious from day one and the stench got worse as time went by. In the Peterson case, when they found the bodies in two different places anyone with a functioning brain knew there was a big problem, but the prosecutor told a series of lies to the court which fooled all too many.

Anonymous said...

Voice:

You took my first pitch without comment. Called strike one!

As for the Peterson case, suggest you contact Bob Dylan to do a protest song about it. Could be a big seller...

Have a great day!

-anon.- (12:34PM)

Anonymous said...

The Scott Peterson case was a mess. The judge forced a conviction by kicking jurors out. The remaining jury admitted that the reason Scott was given the death penalty was because he "showed no emotion." Basically he was convicted for being an adulterer, not a murderer.

Media hysteria and lies were a major issue in both the Scott Peterson and Duke Lacrosse cases. Our system is corrupt and the media acts as an extra arm of the government lynch squad.

Anonymous said...

Scott Peterson did it - has been convicted and will fry -

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 5:37 PM said..."Scott Peterson did it - has been convicted and will fry"

Odd though that after spending $4.13 million and dragging through a 5 month trial the prosecution never could come up with any evidence against him - only a constantly shifting theory which itself made no sense.

Like Nifong it was a case of getting the guy the public wanted and to hell with the truth, justice and the constitution.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Rhonda is back and is NOT going away until there is JUSTICE for my brother, and the other people that have died!

MANY people do NOT want me to be heard, but I will NOT be silenced into oblivion! If this was yor loved one I would hope you would to, but doubt you would have the courage to go public as I have!

I have the utmost faith in God that he will see that people are moved into action, and lives will be saved!

All is not as it appears on the surface, Durham has multitudes of skeletons in it's closets that "the powers that be" do not want brought forward, but SHALL be!

Rhonda Fleming
Cleveland, Ohio
Fighting for JUSTICE!

Anonymous said...

As a Wahoo myself my son is now a freshman at another ACC school as a result of this joke. While I've followed the saga without influence him, it was very well known among his peers at his high school and definitely impacted college selection, including five others. Duke has some serious damage control ahead and it will take years unless they come clean. What a shame, feel sorry for coach K. The memories of Duke basketball will be shadowed forever until Duke admin and Durham step up and clean house. Stay with it Joan.

Michelle from Madison said...

I see Nancy Grace has lost eighteen lawsuits filed against her in just the last six months, and thiry-three lawsuits she lost just last year. All are reported to be "settlements". Still counts as a loss. Is that to keep it out of the news? I understand that CNN is OK with that as long as they are still making money. But, why aren't the other networks picking up on that? Are they losing lawsuits too like Nancy is?

Anonymous said...

Who cares what that woman has got herself into, there are far more enormous subjects to deserve recognition and attention, and she is not worth the typing.....

Rhonda Fleming

Anonymous said...

Imagine instead, your child or loved one MURDERED, and not only does it take Law Enforcement over a YEAR to send ONE single report, they LIE to you from the beginning, and not only REFUSE to do any investigating, but fail to adhere to ANY role of conduct and protocol, then threaten you and LAUGH at you?!



Yes, I have the utmost sympathy for the team, but let us not forget just how many OTHER cases have been corrupted by the exact same system! WHAT has been done to answer and solve the murders of my brother, Janet Araboa, and Michelle Young?! What voices have they now they are dead?!



Where is the outrage, and public and media attention for our families?! Nifong is by far the only knave on the long list of miscreant marauders who care nothing about rights of citizens, and care only for what is in "their" best interest! Wake up people and ask why the Department of Justice has not intervened, and why do our nations leaders just watch and do nothing about an abjectly corrupt and politically ran city?!



I never would have imagined what I now know, and am sick that nobody has taken our pleas, and heard our cries! Our loved ones not just dead, but murdered, and we will never see them hear them, or feel their touch ever again! Unfair?! Unjust?! Impossible?! The cesspool of corruption flows deep into a murky quagmire of wickedness that should expose our own government for allowing it to continue!



True and REAL crimes against humanity ranging from organized crime and drugs, to kidnapping, slavery, prostitution, and murders for global sale of body parts! Google human trafficking in organs, and learn exactly what is going on behind closed doors "the powers that be" never want to see opened! The reality is not only horrific and unimaginable, it IS happening every single day across the world, and Durham is just one of the many links in this chain of the grisly, dark underworld!

Anonymous said...

Rhonda,

I truly hope you rot.
You're a scourge and a worthless loudmouth just trying to seek attention for yourself. Your brother's memory is scarred by the way you conduct yourself.

There's nothing about you to feel sorry for. We're sick of your act, and that's all it is. A serious family member who lost a loved one doesn't show their ass right on and on and on as you do.

F*** off, you obnoxious asshole.

Anonymous said...

5:03 You have it wrong - you are the obnoxious A** hole. I do feel sorry for Rhonda but know that this posting is not appropriate on this blog.

Anonymous said...

I am sorry to blog on the stories meant for "other" stories, but have tried for 3 years to have the case reopened and investigated as it should have been, but was lied to and covered up!

You would feel A LOT different if this was your loved one and nobody cared! The LAX team are alive, they have futures, our is forever full of PAIN you could not understand unless you lived it!

Jack was murdered and his organs stolen, and as God is my witness, I will not stop blogging until the media and world takes notice and does SOMETHING!

Sorry if some consider my posts "unappropriate" but let me tell you this, what they did and have been doing is the most pure evil that can be inflicted and more grisly than any movie because it is REAL!

Educate yourselves, Google Human Trafficking For Organs, and see what you learn! Durham is a MAJOR pitstop, and the government knows, and condones it!!!!

Rhonda Fleming
Fighter, Survivor

Anonymous said...

This is the same old crap Joan was writing a year and a half ago.

Get a life and let the professionals do it.

Another dime store piece from Liestoppers' Phyllis Diller.

A strained and constipated rerun.

You people need to find a new cause. Do any of you ever get laid?

Anonymous said...

Both the Scott Peterson comments AND the Rhonda comments have no place here.

I didn't sign onto Liestoppers to right all the wrongs of the world. There are other places and other forum for that.

But I am here to stand shoulder to shoulder with my fellow Duke Alumni who want our University back.

Perhaps we need to plan a "rally" in Durham on the second anniversary?

Supposed the DPD would give us a marching permit?

Or that Brodhead would meet with disgruntled alumni?

I got the sticky sweet little contributions request from his office. I've been saving it to write back about how long he will need to hold his breath before I send a dime while he and Steele are there. And I have some other words to say about where he can shove his request, but my momma told me not to talk like that.

Thanks Joan.

You keep us focused on the passion and the reason.

DSL

Anonymous said...

Too bad your heart is so cold and focused on ONE case, when MURDERS go unsolved!

You have NO idea of the horrors, and should be ASHAMED to try to make me look like a fool, when my FAMILY has been DESTROYED by Durham's officials, and the misconduct of Law Enforcement, the DA, and our Government to do anything!

THIS is a NATIONAL disgrace, and should be HEADLINES all across the WORLD!

Perhaps you would feel different if it was your child, but it does not matter, ALL are God's children, and SOMEBODY has to take a STAND!

Until then, I will shout from the rooftops, so I recommend you buy a set of earplugs.

Rhonda Fleming
Fighting For Justice!

Anonymous said...

Too bad your heart is so cold and focused on ONE case, when MURDERS go unsolved!

You have NO idea of the horrors, and should be ASHAMED to try to make me look like a fool, when my FAMILY has been DESTROYED by Durham's officials, and the misconduct of Law Enforcement, the DA, and our Government to do anything!

THIS is a NATIONAL disgrace, and should be HEADLINES all across the WORLD!

Perhaps you would feel different if it was your child, but it does not matter, ALL are God's children, and SOMEBODY has to take a STAND!

Until then, I will shout from the rooftops, so I recommend you buy a set of earplugs.

Rhonda Fleming
Fighting For Justice!

Anonymous said...

Liestoppers board... many of us have requested Rhonda to take her case elsewhere. We cannot help her here. She shows no respect for others. We sympathize with her dilemma, but we are NOT her answer.

We think you need to block further comments from her, as other Lacrosse-related sites have had to do.

I hope her brother's murder is solved. I hope the DPD are thoroughly investigated.

But she apparently does not have any common sense at all, and all her "shouting from the rooftops" on this blog is doing nothing but driving people's sympathy away.

Time for her to find a more appropriate venue.

Anonymous said...

"Time for her to find a more appropriate venue."

This wins the prize for understatement of the year.

Is she sure that her brother didn't just leave the country and assume a new identity just to get away from her screaming and yelling?

Anonymous said...

10:49. I'm no fan of Rhonda's. But that last statment was unnecessarily cruel. You can google the info on her brother. She has a case. It just doesn't belong here.

But I don't think you need to be cruel to her.

Anonymous said...

11:28

Have you read some of the obnoxious things Rhonda writes to other people here who just want to discuss the lacrosse case?

She's a proven bitch and I will name what she is.

People need to take responsibility for their actions. She behaves like a welfare queen who will suck the life out of the people who try to be nice to her.

I'm just sick of it. We don't come to Liestoppers for this.

Anonymous said...

Whoever you are have the courage to leave your name. This site is about stopping LIES, and is what we have been doing for the past 3 years, with the same system that did nothing knowing innocent lives were destroyed, and would rather keep their dirty secrets safely under the rug.

I am not about to apologize for my RELENTLESS FIGHT, and will NOT quit until his case is re-opened, and will only have peace ONCE that is done!

I have come forward for HELP, and if some want to "heckle" me, go ahead. I have seen my brothers beaten and executed body, and that is forever burned in my mind! A visual I pray none of you ever have to endure!

Trust?! Betrayal?! Our Government has watched this site, knows about the corruption, and still does NOTHING?!

Whomever wants me silenced wants so because I speak the TRUTH! We have made many requests and complaints to the numerous agencies, yet officials have done NOTHING to comply to our RIGHT to know what happened to my mother's son, and my brother!

The Pentagon, DOJ, Administrative Office Of The Courts, NASA, and ALL of the other entities are watching for a reason that is greater than ONE case in this nefarious city! This is no secret as I have told the FBI, Mr Ekstrand, Mike Gaynor, and several others the direct proof to show just who is watching what!

I am NOT here for pity, but for LOVE! You have NO idea what we have endured, and the loss we have suffered, only to be mocked and ridiculed?!

Mr Saacks and Sheriff Hill knows who I am, and so do the players involved. If they want to threaten me, charge me, or make any statements about this case, LET THEM!

I have NOTHING to hide, and MUCH to say, and with prayers and God's hand, WILL get the support and help we need. Some may fear what lies beneath Pandora's box, but have faith this will reach the right ears and something good can come from so much horror!

I wish ALL of the families,the people on this forum, and readers all over the world nothing but peace and happiness, and want only to right a tremendous wrong for a man who did so much right!

Rhonda Fleming
Seeker Of Truth

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 9:15 PM said... "Both the Scott Peterson comments AND the Rhonda comments have no place here".

As long as Scott Peterson is used by the lazy or uninformed as an example of wife killers expect to be challenged on it. There are plenty of real wife killers - Scott Peterson is not one of them.

Anonymous said...

3:21. Yeah, right. Tell that to his extra marital partner. Tell that to his dead wife and child. All grieving husbands load their gear up and plan to head off to Mexico to deal with their pain, right?

Anonymous said...

2:38

Go f*** yourself, idiot!

We're going to get your ass off this blog.

Enough of you!

Anonymous said...

Rhonda,

Give it a rest. Everybody has tried to be nice to you, but no one can stand it anymore.

Does anything embarrass you? Do you have any regard for other people?

Right now I don't give a damn about you or your brother. I'm thinking about the well being of the people you cause to dread the very appearance of your name on a website.

Anonymous said...

Comparing her to Phyllis Diller? That's cold.

Anonymous said...

I love Phyllis Diller but this betrayal piece reads like a Barbara Cartland soap opera. Was this written late at night while indulging?

Anonymous said...

This crap is so old that it's green mold.

Can't you just choke on all the cliches?

It does serve as a way for Joan to get some praise from the hausfraus. You don't see KC touching this.

Anonymous said...

My regards are for the dead with no voices. Your name calling, and bashing me only shows that "people" are not liking what I have to say, too bad!

The truth hurts, but lies KILL!
Rhonda Fleming
Activist

Anonymous said...

My regards are for the dead with no voices. Your name calling, and bashing me only shows that "people" are not liking what I have to say, too bad!

The truth hurts, but lies KILL!
Rhonda Fleming
Activist

Anonymous said...

IP addresses and frequency are so illuminating.

Anonymous said...

2:34

Very true.

Anonymous said...

yes they are and evidence of conspiracy to do any thing

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 9:12 AM foolishly let his flabby mind say...
Yeah, right. Tell that to his extra marital partner.

The one who phoned him three times nagging him until he finally agreed to go out with her? Who gave it up on each of the only 4 dates they had? You got me. I guess you have proved that he is a straight man. And so . . . . ?

Tell that to his dead wife and child.

Who were murdered by a psycho bitch who wanted their child.

All grieving husbands load their gear up and plan to head off to Mexico to deal with their pain, right?

You confused him with one of his clones. He used his super powers to make two clones of himself. While he headed east to play golf and was arrested outside the golf club, one clone headed north to kill Frey which it did, shutting her up forever. Then it went to Canada and opened a string of terrorist training camps disguised as Tim Hortons. Meanwhile it was the other clone who went south to Mexico in his flying saucer where it exports meth to the USA by stuffing it up the assholes of pigeons.

You live in such a rich fantasy world, don't you? What color is the sky there?

According to the state's own pathologist, Laci's body had caffeine in it. None was found in Conner. Also, her underwear was worn out completely in back but not at all in the front.

So:
Why did Laci's body have caffeine in it?
Why didn't Conner's body have any caffeine in it?
Why were Laci's underpants completely worn out in the seat?

The only explanation that can be offered that fits the guilty theories is that Scott got up that morning and told Laci that he had decided he didn't want to be married so he was going to kill her, so, although she was avoiding caffeine because of the baby, she might as well have a last cup of coffee. Then she replied that in that case there was no point in her wearing her good underwear so she might as well get an old pair out of the scrap clothes hamper and wear those instead. But she also asked him to be sure he dumped her with her Croton diamond watch and her antique diamond earrings since, as she liked to say, she wouldn't want to be caught dead without them.

Got a theory about that?

Anonymous said...

Didn't he go to Mexico and then return?

Anonymous said...

8:03 You sure do have some inside information don't you.

Maybe you should team up with Rhonda.

But when you do PLEASE start your own blogs

Anonymous said...

just one more thought for 8:03 and the caffine.

I'm a nurse. I have 6 years of postgraduate education. So don't try to tilt windmills with me.

You might want to ask one of your "expert witnesses" whether caffine crosses the placental barrier.

Of course, the forensic pathologists were probably on the payroll of Scott's alien enemies and never checked that out.

You scare me.

Did somebody give this psycho killer a computer on death row?

Let's get outta here.

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 8:56 PM said...
Didn't he go to Mexico and then return?

Yes. The flabby brained idiots just ignore that however. Facts confuse them - hatred is all they know. This goes some way to explaining how Nifong got away with it for so long.

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 9:58 PM said... You sure do have some inside information don't you.

But when you do PLEASE start your own blogs
It isn't inside information. The trial transcript is online. Anyone with a functioning brain can read it.

And I have my own blogs. I'm only here because lazy idiots keep using Scott Peterson as the example of uxoricide - something he is not.

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 10:01 PM said...
just one more thought for 8:03 and the caffine.

I'm a nurse. I have 6 years of postgraduate education. So don't try to tilt windmills with me.

You might want to ask one of your "expert witnesses" whether caffine crosses the placental barrier.

Of course, the forensic pathologists were probably on the payroll of Scott's alien enemies and never checked that out.

You scare me.

Did somebody give this psycho killer a computer on death row?

Let's get outta here.


We researched it. We are assured it does cross the barrier and that the half life is tripled during pregnancy. However it is the fact that Laci had consumed it which is most telling here.

Scott Peterson has never hit another human being in his entire life. You disgrace yourself with your stupid slander. Unlike you I care for justice, not revenge.

You would rather believe utter crap than accept the truth - that a bunch of cops were prepared to lie a man onto death row for their own gain, and that the prosecutors were prepared to do as much. Add a hand picked judge and cherry picked jurors and explain to me how this is fair?

Anonymous said...

2:34 What is your thinking on the IP addresses? What do they mean to you and how do you know them? Between Rhonda and the Scott P supporters, this thread is BORING. Your post is a welcome relief from the crazyness. Is Scott not on death row and going to fry - or whatever they do in California.

Anonymous said...

11:11 pm

The people who run this blog often comment anonymously when they want to throw shit around.

This is one of them most likely pretending to know everyone who posts.

A redneck operation.

Anonymous said...

IMO it is done by people with alterior motives, who do NOT want the cops, and government exposed for their part in "Organised Crime!"

Looks as if the "chickens" have their feathers ruffled, and I CANNOT say enough about the drugs, gangs, murders, and global organ trafficking!

The LAX case is ONE case! Solve my brothers murder, Janet Araboa's, Michelle Young, and all of the other cases that have been ignored because the LAX case has taken so much of the world's attention.

The MAJOR factor in all of the above is CORRUPTION, very strategically ran, organised, and making BILLIONS of dollars to Durham and numerous cities and countries all over the world!

I would say these crimes TRUMPS any one person, but a chain of people and government that allows it!

For the love of God, do a Google search and see for yourselves, don't let trolls purposely sabotage a sincere effort to end suffering for more than just my family!

Rhonda Fleming
Activist

Anonymous said...

I disagree that the Lax case has taken so much of the world's attention. I have bright relatives in NC and throughout the country - people with successful careers and Master degrees, who don't care about this event and know almost nothing about it. It is just us on this board who care.

Anonymous said...

I don't give a hoot in h%%% about Duke, Durham, DPD or anything else related to corruption, etc in NC. I was in this to help fight the obvious injustice to the RDC. I am thankful they are off the hook and got millions.

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 11:11 PM said...
Is Scott not on death row and going to fry - or whatever they do in California.

He is on death row. It takes over 7 years to get an appeal started in CA, and he will have to stay there until a superior court takes a look at this disgrace of a 'trial' and throws it out. In a retrial, with a decent lawyer, it is hard to imagine how he could not prevail and be found not guilty. There was no evidence against him and a mountain of evidence for his innocence. It took a jury composed of those with extreme malice to convict him, jurors sometimes described as the dumbest 12 hillbillies Redwood City had to offer. Sadly they are not alone, there have been many other recent cases where juries ignored everything in order to convict. In a recent book, "Tilted: The Trial of Conrad Black" by Steven Skurka he reports his shock at how blatantly the US system has been tilted against the defendant. Testimony which has been extorted by threats is offered against defendants and the jury is not allowed to know what a devil's bargain was used to obtain it. And then there are all of the cops and prosecutors who hide or destroy evidence and then lie about it. It is a shocking system indeed. and Nifong is just a small example of it.

Anonymous said...

12:20

ESAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

1:16AM I just wanted to know what time it was, not how the clocked worked. Peterson will be convicted every time.

Anonymous said...

1:16AM I just wanted to know what time it was, not how the clocked worked. Peterson will be convicted every time.

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 11:23 AM illiterately babbled ...
I just wanted to know what time it was, not how the clocked worked. Peterson will be convicted every time.

IMO, people like you who cheer a conviction with no evidence aren't just immoral creeps, I regard them as traitors. America is supposed to be a land of laws. You strike at the very heart of it. Burn in hell.

Anonymous said...

The evidence against him was this: he was in a boat in the ocean near the location of his wife's body; he had a possible motive for murder. There wasn't much more than that. He likes porn; he has a cool demeanor; he golfs. Fry the bastard!

After convicting him, some members of the jury published a book, cashing in on their involvement. That should be illegal.

But let's not blame it all on the jury. His lawyer was a bungling idiot.

Anonymous said...

What about global stealing of bodies for transplant and research? What did they do to my brother's body and others who have been murdered ALIVE so they can take viable organs and sell them to the highest bidder?

Why is nobody doing ANYTHING to expose this HORRIFIC REALITY?????
BILLIONS of dollars, and many companies and individuals profit off this which has proven to be more money than drugs or gold.

Where the HELL is the OUTRAGE and SUPPORT?!
Rhonda Fleming
Waves Hello To The "Watchers"

Anonymous said...

12:42 As Mark Twain wrote "Differences of opinion is why we have horse races."

Anonymous said...

Mark G is one of the best lawyers in America. You know you are in trouble when he can't get you off.

Anonymous said...

Geragos is a terrible lawyer. He got an undeserved reputation for succcessfully representing Gary Condit.

Which was easy enough to do, considering that Condit was 100% innocent, and there was never a shred of evidence to suggest otherwise. Geragos is famous for being famous and nothing more.

Remember that he called his own client an asshole in front of the jury, and swore to the national media that he would not only get his client off, but would PROVE HE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT. If you're a good lawyer you don't write checks that your client's ass can't cash.

Anonymous said...

3:44

This is exactly the real Rhonda. She shows herself and her true motives.

A freak who only wants some attention.

You are an insane sow!

A gross human being. Using your brother as an excuse.

Go get a life bitch and leave us alone!

Anonymous said...

I am a bitch because my brother was murdered for his wealth he worked so incredibly hard for, and I am here to make SURE he gets the ATTENTION he deserves!

Yes I want attention, I want the WORLD to know what goes on behind closed doors, and what organised crime and government does as a united effort!

Insulting me only shows that I have made some people upset, and too bad! I have seen my brother EXECUTED, covered in MAGGOTS, a trail of BLUE blood, and a open and shut case of FRAUD to obtain his estate by the wife who has NO place even being allowed to walk free!

If she or the Sheriff's Department have something to say to me, DO IT!
Saacks is another piece of work, and just a clone of Nifong!

Look into the La Zona, and funeral homes owned and operated by LAW ENFORCEMENT. Don't you know there is a connection?! If you don't you are blind, and need to take off them rose colored glasses and see the TRUTH!

I am going public to EXPOSE these bastards for the crime leaders they are, and want JUSTICE in THIS life for my brother, and ALL of the people whose lives have been DESTROYED!

I am BEGGING the media to contact me, I have evidence to prove murder and fraud, and the deliberate cover-up to hide the facts of his murder, and what they did with his body before they burned him like garbage!

PLEASE contact Bob Ekstrand, he has the documents, and how to contact me!
Robert C. Ekstrand
Firm: Ekstrand & Ekstrand

Address: 811 Ninth Street, Suite 260
Durham, NC 27705


Phone: (919) 416-4590

Fax: (919) 416-4591


Rhonda Fleming
Here Till The End!

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 5:38 PM said...
Geragos is a terrible lawyer. He got an undeserved reputation for succcessfully representing Gary Condit.

Which was easy enough to do, considering that Condit was 100% innocent, and there was never a shred of evidence to suggest otherwise. Geragos is famous for being famous and nothing more.

Remember that he called his own client an asshole in front of the jury, and swore to the national media that he would not only get his client off, but would PROVE HE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT. If you're a good lawyer you don't write checks that your client's ass can't cash.


Ironically the evidence to prove Scott innocent was there but Geragos missed opportunity after opportunity. He occasionally rose to the challenge, but his performance was too hit and miss to be effective. Still, it does show why prosecutors like Nifong will cheat - they are as incompetent as the defense lawyers they oppose.

Anonymous said...

i seriously wonder if Bob Ekstrand has given Rhonda permission to have people contact his office for information, or if Rhonda has just presumed this.

Anonymous said...

Mr Ekstrand would take the case had he not been so busy with the LAX fiasco. He is holding all of the documents and links I have sent for another lawyer, and for MY protection!

Exposing corrupt officials, and companies involved with organ trafficking! The TRUTH will be exposed and is far more serious than the average mind can fathom!

Why else would so many offices in Washington, and numerous companies care to be watching this site over the LAX suit?

They watch for their own interests, and I am glad they are, just helps prove our case, and conspiracy to acknowledge all I have said, and stand by!

A tangled web indeed!

Rhonda Fleming
Justice4Jack

Anonymous said...

To contact me directly, please send SERIOUS media and legal inquiries to:

justice4all2005@yahoo.com

Rhonda Fleming
Cleveland, Ohio
Sister of Allen Jackson Croft Jr, murdered in Durham on May 11, 2005 fighting for JUSTICE!

Anonymous said...

10:06: I think that prosecutors get lazy because their job is so easy. They're accustomed to having the truth in their corner, as most defendents are criminals who have been in and out of the system their whole lives. Getting a conviction against guilty people is easy, especially when jurors are so easy to convince. Then hubris sets in.

And that's when the gods choose to fuck with prosecutors.

A Voice of Sanity said...

Anonymous 12:23 AM said ...

I think that prosecutors get lazy because their job is so easy. They're accustomed to having the truth in their corner, as most defendents are criminals who have been in and out of the system their whole lives. Getting a conviction against guilty people is easy, especially when jurors are so easy to convince. Then hubris sets in.

And that's when the gods choose to fuck with prosecutors.


As they say in Modesto: "Convicting the guilty is easy. Convicting the innocent takes real skill and ability".

Anonymous said...

You know what?
You guys are wasting your time. This Rhonda person is a hoax. No one with such a tragedy and loss acts the way this person does. Most people have more solemn dignity in their grief.
These constant rants are the work of someone who has long gone mad.

Anonymous said...

Mad, furious, and disgusted are far better terms to describe what our family has been through, and the hoax sign hangs on the doors of our judicial system.

Tragedy and loss? That doesn't begin to describe the horror and hell we have endured, and will continue to fight till the end! What dignity can be found over the murder of a loved one, whose case has been completely denied and covered up?

His wife didn't care, the state doesn't care, but WE do! My brother was beaten, then shot AFTER he was killed to stage a "suicide."

"They" may have destroyed his life and body, but the photographs and evidence PROVE murder, and we could care less about what anybody but experts, and a jury have to say!

I have gone public to EXPOSE the corrupt law enforcement, and officials within our government who do NOT want this case seeing the light of day!

The real HOAX is the farce perpetuated by the Sheriff's Department, the DA, the SBI, FBI, and Medical Examiner!

There will be no "dignity" until this case is brought before the courts, and the world to see just how evil the "system" is!

Then, and ONLY then, will we be able to BEGIN to heal, and know my brother's dignity, integrity, and name is restored!

I don't hide, I have been completely forthwith, and will NOT show citizens pictures of his body, and the BLUE blood just to satisfy your own morbid curiosity!

The lies have been heaped upon us by Durham and it's leaders, and they SHALL be held responsible for their wicked deeds!

The LAX team are by far the only ones who have endured suffering from corruption, only they are alive and have futures ahead, our have been devastated, and NOTHING will change UNTIL his murderer and the conspirators behind it are ALL behind bars for many years, unless they are sentenced to death.

I could care less about what happens to their souls, but DO care about MY only brother's life and memory, and will continue to fight for HIM!

Since you wish to try and make a fool of me, why not say who YOU are?! What is YOUR reason to try and sabotage a families right to justice for the murder of their loved one?!
Rhonda Fleming
Fighter, Survivor, and Sister

Anonymous said...

One more thing, I am also VERY glad to see my "rants" have caught the attention of the Pentagon, DOJ, Administrative Office Of The US Courts, numerous other officices in Washington, and attention from scores of tech companies all over the USA and world!

It all just helps prove our case of organised crime, human trafficking for body parts, prostituition, drugs, and murders for hire. Why else would they care about this one single site, that is completely dedicated to the nafariousness of the Bull City?!

Me thinks the "chickens" are in a stew!
Rhonda Fleming

Anonymous said...

Just ignore her, folks.

Anonymous said...

You would like that wouldn't you? Are your initials TT, TM, or SC?

Are you in Cary, or Washinigton? I am not hiding, why are YOU?

Rhonda Fleming
Mad Sister Fighting A Mad System

Anonymous said...

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

Anonymous said...

Are you threatening me? I do not consider this a freedom of speech, but take this as a deliberate personal attack.....Hello LieStoppers, and world!

Rhonda Fleming
STILL Here

Anonymous said...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inigo_Montoya


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Inigo Montoya is a character in William Goldman's 1973 novel The Princess Bride. In Rob Reiner's 1987 film adaptation he was portrayed by Mandy Patinkin. In both the book and the movie, he resided in the fictional country of Florin.


[edit] Character background
Inigo Montoya is a Spanish fencer and a member of Vizzini's gang. His father Domingo was a great swordmaker, but remained obscure because he disliked dealing with the rich and privileged. When a six-fingered nobleman (later revealed to be Count Rugen) asked him to forge a sword to accommodate his unusual hand, Domingo poured his heart and soul into the project. However, when Rugen returned, he reneged on his promised price, and thus Domingo refused to give him the sword. Angered, Rugen killed Domingo without warning. Eleven-year-old Inigo witnessed the crime and challenged Rugen to a fight. Rugen easily disarmed Inigo; he spared his life, but scarred his face with the tip of the sword to teach him a lesson.

Devastated by the loss of his father, Inigo devoted his entire life to becoming a great swordsman in order to avenge his father. His original elaborate revenge fantasies eventually evolved into a simple greeting: "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die." After years of training, he becomes the greatest swordsman of his generation, and the only living man to hold the rank of "wizard" (a fictional fencing rank above "master").


[edit] In the story
However, he remained unable to find his father's killer. Fearing that he would never fulfill his quest, Inigo sank into depression and alcoholism before the criminal Vizzini found and recruited him into his gang, consisting of Vizzini himself and the giant Fezzik. The three were hired by Prince Humperdinck to abduct and kill the "princess bride," Buttercup. Subsequent events led to Inigo's duel with the "Man in Black," an extended sequence in both the book and the movie, in which both contestants begin fencing left-handed and eventually switch to their dominant right hands as the contest intensifies. Inigo is then knocked unconscious by the "Man in Black" (Westley). When he regains consciousness he heads back to the thieves quarter, depressed that he had been beaten, and became a useless drunkard once more. Eventually Fezzik finds him and helps him regain his health, somewhat forcibly. They eventually rescue the "Man in Black" from the Zoo of Death (Pit of Despair in the movie) and take him to Miracle Max to be brought back to life. Inigo would eventually join the Man in Black to fight Humperdinck and Count Rugen and fulfill his vow of revenge by killing his father's murderer.



I HARDLY find this a joking matter, nor freedom of speech, but take this as a direct quote to "kill me" to mean just that, and am taking action against this threat!

Rhonda Fleming
Sister, Survivor

Anonymous said...

You think that Inigo Montoya is going to kill you?

Anonymous said...

"Hello, my name is Anigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die" is a well-known movie quote, not a death threat. It refers to a character who searches obsessively for his father's killer. In the end, he gets him.

Anonymous said...

Quoting from a book or whatever does not make the words any less of a personal threat, it is the same as putting a gun to somebodies head and asking do you feel lucky, you are not a child and does not condone the nature of the post!
Rhonda Fleming
Still Alive!

Anonymous said...

6:01 am

ESAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

My name is Rhonda Fleming, and I am writing this letter and posting it on every news and blog site possible, to seek recognition, aid, and to educate the masses to the unfathomable abuses and crimes that are allowed to be continued without ANY help from our government concerning the murder of my brother in Durham, North Carolina in 2005, and many other crimes involving a very long list of injustices committed by Law Enforcement, and not just in the Carolina's.
The media and world have focused too much attention to this one case, as countless other cases have been completely left at the wayside! During the three years I have spent gathering evidence that they have completely ignored, have made numerous official requests and complaints to countless officials in NC, and Washington DC, all to no avail.
The focus is on one case by a city that is totally corrupt, yet the Department Of Justice, Administrative Office Of The Courts, Congress and many other official legislative, and judicial branches sits idly by, watches and does nothing!
The lawsuit made by the Duke LAX team will shed a bit of light onto the deliberate attempt and conspiracy of many, to care less about the lives, laws, and rights of citizens, and instead use them and us as political pawns on their nefarious road to perdition.
What is the big shock here? The families have every right to sue the city for negligence of an entire political system that failed miserably! This is by far NOT the biggest case to be media worthy, but one that has brought to the light of day a sample of what people in power do every single day and nobody even knows or cares!
Well, I am here to tell the WORLD and every entity watching, that As God is my witness I will not go to my grave without speaking out about the same system that has not only covered over my beloved brother's murder, but have mocked us, threatened us, and continue to deny us the right to know not just how my brother died, but everything that was done and NOT done!
I have contacted EVERY person their is imaginable, excluding the President, and still have been denied not just documents, but the right of a family to know how their loved one met their death, and to know what was done, and not done to his body!
We have been lied to and threatened by the Durham Sheriff's Department, have been shuffled through 3 years and 3 District Attorneys, countless complaints filed to numerous governmental agencies, even our own Congressman Dennis Kucinich, and STILL NOTHING!
We have sent our documents that we have been able to glean from the system to Mr. Ekstrand, but due to his obligation to the LAX team is unable to represent us but would if he could. I have sent him, the FBI, and several others copies of the BLUE blood coming from an entrance wound, none from 2 exits wounds, a inconclusive and actually negative GSR screen, proof of fraud and collaborative deception, and have been to hell and back in this maddening chase to expose this city and system for allowing crimes against humanity to go unannounced, while innocent people suffer from the hands of the very powers who took oaths before God and man to protect and serve!
So, here my family and I are coming forward to beg the media to help us to solve my brother's death, and expose a system of debauchery and evils that not only baffle the mind, but leaves you breathless and speechless! I have tried and done all that I can alone, and now have 2 months before the state can be held liable for not just one mans death, but expose a system that feeds off the helpless, then leaves them for dead!
So, I will say the purpose of this letter now is to also gain attention to the enumerable failures within the system, to right a countless injustice done to a plethora of lives that have been left completely devastated, and to make our government be held responsible and accountable for FAILING us the citizens, and the dead who have no voice but scream beyond their graves! The truth is worse than a nightmare because it is REAL and more HORRIFIC than you could ever
have imagined!
Never could I have guessed such wickedness by not just individuals, but extremely organized and calculated, and failed by the very country and leaders we so blindly put our hopes and faith into! My heart bleeds for the truth, and mourns those who have been so wickedly tortured! My brother and countless others did NOT die in vain, and I will be damned if I will let fear keep me from Justice For Jack, but JUSTICE For ALL!
Imagine instead, your child or loved one MURDERED, and not only does it take Law Enforcement over a YEAR to send ONE single report, they LIE to you from the beginning, and not only REFUSE to do any investigating, but fail to adhere to ANY role of conduct and protocol, then threaten you and LAUGH at you?!
Yes, I have the utmost sympathy for the team, but let us not forget just how many OTHER cases have been corrupted by the exact same system! WHAT has been done to answer and solve the murders of my brother, Janet Araboa, and Michelle Young?! What voices have they now they are dead?!
Where is the outrage, and public and media attention for our families?!
Nifong is by far the only knave on the long list of miscreant marauders who care nothing about rights of citizens, and care only for what is in "their" best interest! Wake up people and ask why the Department of Justice has not intervened, and why do our nations leaders just watch and do nothing about an abjectly corrupt and politically ran city?!
I never would have imagined what I now know, and am sick that nobody has taken our pleas, and heard our cries! Our loved ones not just dead, but murdered, and we will never see them hear them, or feel their touch ever again! Unfair?! Unjust?! Impossible?! The cesspool of corruption flows deep into a murky quagmire of wickedness that should expose our own government for allowing it to continue!
True and REAL crimes against humanity ranging from organized crime and drugs, to kidnapping, slavery, prostitution, and murders for global sale of body parts! Google human trafficking in organs, and learn exactly what is going on behind closed doors "the powers that be" never want to see opened! The reality is not only horrific and unimaginable, it IS happening every single day across the world, and Durham is just one of the many links in this chain of the grisly, dark underworld!
I have fought for nearly 3 years to restore my beloved brother, and best friend's respect, and JUSTICE he, and all of the others desperately deserve, and will never quit until something is done and things are changed! NOBODY deserves what mine and countless other families have endured, and for us I am begging the people and media to make a difference and care about all of the other serious matters that have fallen to the wayside for needless years!
Where IS the SBI report on my brother? Where is the details of what was done to his body and organs after he was killed? What was done to investigate his death? What was done to provide the family with documents and reports we should not just have public access to, but to every iota of information, as they closed his death as a "suicide" yet did no autopsy and lied they did?
What was done to my brother is so horrifically twisted and unreal that the city has gone out of it's way to not only deny him an investigation, but to hide facts, alter reports, and fail to adhere to any semblance of protocol?!
Where is the OUTRAGE for our family and others of unsolved and purposely neglected murders, just from 2005?!
Does anybody out here give a damn for us?!
Something MUST be done, and I have come forward to beg the media and government to hear what I have to say about my brother's case, and the crimes being done to many innocent victims that MUST be acknowledged, reported, investigated, and DESERVE action and resolution!
To contact me directly, please send SERIOUS media and legal inquiries to:
justice4all2005@yahoo.com
Rhonda Fleming
Cleveland, Ohio
Sister of Allen Jackson Croft Jr, murdered in Durham on May 11, 2005 fighting for JUSTICE
For legal reference please refer to Mr. Ekstrand for personal contact:
Robert C. Ekstrand
Firm: Ekstrand & Ekstrand
Address: 811 Ninth Street, Suite 260
Durham, NC 27705
Phone: (919) 416-4590
Fax: (919) 416-4591

Anonymous said...

4:43

You stupid Shit!

Anonymous said...

Far from it dear, I know TOO much, and your trifling attempt to discredit me just proves I have stirred the pot.

Rhonda Fleming
REAL Durham Survivor!

Anonymous said...

http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-931447.cfm

Jail suicide prompts no policy changes
BY BRIANNE DOPART : The Herald-Sun
bdopart@heraldsun.com
Mar 8, 2008

DURHAM -- Despite claims by inmates that a Durham County Jail prisoner spoke openly of suicidal tendencies and a discovery of suicide notes, officials say they received no such indications before the 27-year-old man ended his life.

And there are no plans for policy or structural changes at the jail, where fellow inmates found assault suspect Brian Lashand Rollins hanging from part of a window frame in his cell about 4 p.m. on Feb. 9. That was about 30 minutes after he'd last been seen alive, according to the report of his autopsy.

Days after the hanging death of Rollins, county leaders told The Herald-Sun they'd await the outcome of the Sheriff's Office investigation to determine if additional safety precautions were needed to ensure the jail was a safe place for its inmates.

According to Deputy County Manager Carolyn Titus, it is routine procedure for the Sheriff's Office to investigate a jailhouse death, ensure no foul play was involved and then recommend any adjustments that need to be made to the facility.

Titus said that the Sheriff's Office made no such recommendations and expressed confidence in the safety of inmates housed at the jail.

Rollins, a father of eight, was without a pulse when he was discovered. He was taken to Duke University Hospital, where he was declared brain dead the next morning and died a short time later.

He was found hanging from a window frame in his cell. But the Sheriff's Office says there is no need to adjust cells by removing items from which an inmate could be hanged. Sheriff's Office Investigator Tom Mellown, who investigated the case, said suicidal individuals can hang themselves from anything, so long as they can apply enough pressure to the neck to block the passage of air.

Yet in the past, the Sheriff's Office has requested money from the county to rid cells of vents based on the argument that the vents present a safety threat and an opportunity for hanging. Mellown, who as investigator has no part in budgeting, could not comment on those past requests, he said.

Mellown's criminal investigation into Rollins' death determined there was no foul play. From conversations with guards, jail employees and four or five inmates, Mellown determined there were no indications that the 27-year-old inmate was suicidal, he said.

One inmate did tell the investigator that Rollins never responded to him when he tried to chat with him from an adjacent cell. Another inmate told the investigator Rollins talked to him about wanting to end his life. But according to Mellown, the inmate said he never told any jail guards or officials of Rollins' intentions.

One inmate who was in the jail at the same time as Rollins told The Herald-Sun that, contrary to the Sheriff's Office's investigation, the troubled inmate told anyone who would listen that he wanted to end his life. But the guards, he claimed, were either too busy or didn't care and ignored Rollins' repeated pleas for help.

Rollins was distraught, the source said, over relationship issues involving a woman. Rollins was being held in the jail on a charge of assault on a female. His bond was $50,000. It was unclear whether the assault victim was the same woman with whom he was romantically involved.

According to the Sheriff's Office, no red flags arose during a 10-question psychological assessment that Rollins, like all inmates entering the jail, was subject to when he arrived at the facility Feb. 6.

Jail procedure calls for inmates to be administered the test only upon arrival, regardless of how long they are to be held in the jail. But if an inmate reaches out for help or if jail employees notice an inmate acting in a way that demonstrates his or her psychological state has changed, they will be referred for reassessment.

Rollins was not referred for any such assessment.

THIS is the SAME man who "INVESTIGATED" my brother's death, and you all still think HE and LE are to be trusted at all?!?!

AND, again, NO autopsy was done for my brother, AND we were LIED to and told one was done, plus threatened!!!!!

For the love of God people, DO SOMETHING!!!!

Rhonda Fleming
Durham SURVIVOR

A Voice of Sanity said...

Getting back to the Duke case, see http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2007/04/05/RMarsden/

I quote: -

Marsden had jumped in with unusual speed, pooh-poohing possible repercussions for the woman who claimed she was raped by members of the Duke University lacrosse team a year ago. "Charges are laid, charges are dropped," said Marsden. "It happens all the time. Unless she can get charged with mischief and they can prove she lied, then no, [she shouldn't be punished]. That's the process and the process works." But, argued Gutfeld, "Don't you think that being accused of rape is as bad as being raped? Those guys' lives were ruined!" Marsden bit back, "Let's give it 10 years and see if their lives were ruined."

She should know, as a woman notorious for making false rape charges herself! Search for (Rachel Marsden Vancouver BC) for many articles on her case.